Comments on: The water through which we swim http://numero57.net/2009/06/12/the-water-through-which-we-swim/ a blog by Jim Bliss Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:32:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jim Bliss http://numero57.net/2009/06/12/the-water-through-which-we-swim/#comment-2065 Jim Bliss Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:39:09 +0000 http://numero57.net/?p=1367#comment-2065 I agree with pretty much everything you say, <b>Joel</b>. I certainly don't think that racism is the only problem with the BNP. But it is a specific issue upon which they can be challenged. They represent a kind of thuggish tribalism ("a vulgar kind of stupidity" in your words) and that feeds off prejudices like racism and nationalism. So long as the racism of the BNP remains reprehensible in the eyes of the vast majority, then there's little risk of their particular brand of vulgar stupidity gaining traction and affecting the lives of most people. And the best way to keep it on the sidelines is to challenge it vocally whenever it tries to gain a foothold. Of course there's plenty of other vulgar stupidities which darken our world, but keeping this particular one at bay is worthy in itself. And we can deal with the others come the revolution. (nice to hear from you again, by the way). I agree with pretty much everything you say, Joel. I certainly don’t think that racism is the only problem with the BNP. But it is a specific issue upon which they can be challenged.

They represent a kind of thuggish tribalism (“a vulgar kind of stupidity” in your words) and that feeds off prejudices like racism and nationalism. So long as the racism of the BNP remains reprehensible in the eyes of the vast majority, then there’s little risk of their particular brand of vulgar stupidity gaining traction and affecting the lives of most people. And the best way to keep it on the sidelines is to challenge it vocally whenever it tries to gain a foothold.

Of course there’s plenty of other vulgar stupidities which darken our world, but keeping this particular one at bay is worthy in itself. And we can deal with the others come the revolution.

(nice to hear from you again, by the way).

]]> By: Joel http://numero57.net/2009/06/12/the-water-through-which-we-swim/#comment-2064 Joel Sun, 14 Jun 2009 23:19:04 +0000 http://numero57.net/?p=1367#comment-2064 The issue isn't simply racism with the BNP. Rather it's a vulgar kind of stupidity, thuggish with it, that naturally includes racism. You can't fight the BNP simply on the contemptibility of racism, you have to realise that in all areas of human thought those who vote for the BNP are quite backward and they are only reacting as can be expected, much as a limited organism does to light and shade. Castigating them for their views achieves little, because for them 'their views' and 'who they are' is not separate. They are only just out of the primordial slime -- a bit early for lessons on good manners. Just leave them alone to elect their party of choice, I say. As far as the human race goes, it's useful to have some means of measuring backwardness. Now we're getting actual figures in. Thankfully it is not as bad as we expected. There are still plenty of people intelligent enough to see the worthlessness of voting. The issue isn’t simply racism with the BNP. Rather it’s a vulgar kind of stupidity, thuggish with it, that naturally includes racism. You can’t fight the BNP simply on the contemptibility of racism, you have to realise that in all areas of human thought those who vote for the BNP are quite backward and they are only reacting as can be expected, much as a limited organism does to light and shade. Castigating them for their views achieves little, because for them ‘their views’ and ‘who they are’ is not separate. They are only just out of the primordial slime — a bit early for lessons on good manners. Just leave them alone to elect their party of choice, I say. As far as the human race goes, it’s useful to have some means of measuring backwardness. Now we’re getting actual figures in. Thankfully it is not as bad as we expected. There are still plenty of people intelligent enough to see the worthlessness of voting.

]]> By: links for 2009-06-14 « Embololalia http://numero57.net/2009/06/12/the-water-through-which-we-swim/#comment-2063 links for 2009-06-14 « Embololalia Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:04:39 +0000 http://numero57.net/?p=1367#comment-2063 [...] The water through which we swim (The Quiet Road) We are none of us entirely free of prejudice. A wise man once said that “racism is the water through which we all swim”. But the idea is to swim against the current, folks, not get swept along with it. We challenge our racism whenever it appears in us. And we do so not because we’re being oppressed by political correctness, but because ultimately racism lessens us as individuals, it attacks the foundations of the society we live in and it’s no less than a direct assault upon the human soul. (tags: bnp eu09 racism freespeech uk) [...] [...] The water through which we swim (The Quiet Road) We are none of us entirely free of prejudice. A wise man once said that “racism is the water through which we all swim”. But the idea is to swim against the current, folks, not get swept along with it. We challenge our racism whenever it appears in us. And we do so not because we’re being oppressed by political correctness, but because ultimately racism lessens us as individuals, it attacks the foundations of the society we live in and it’s no less than a direct assault upon the human soul. (tags: bnp eu09 racism freespeech uk) [...]

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