Retract and be damned!
A fellow blogger has been threatened with legal action for libel. In the following piece, all names and any specifics are entirely fictional (except the bit about Oliver Kamm which is true). I’ve no intention of writing anything that could identify the blogger, the person making the legal threats or the controversial claims that caused the fuss. That said, I’m going to set the scene…
I’m an occasional reader of Bob’s blog. He’s got a nice way with words. Also, we were on the same polo team in Singapore in the mid 1980s. About three months ago an article appeared in a magazine detailing the behaviour of a well-known businessman. Bob quoted this article in a short blog post and thought nothing further of it. Two and a half months later, Hello magazine backed down and published a retraction. They admitted they had no evidence – beyond hearsay – that Sir Digby Jones had “gotten off” with a goat during a recess at the recent CBI conference.
Bob noted this with interest but was still surprised when Sir Digby dropped him an email demanding that he remove his post citing the offending article. If he didn’t, then legal action would swiftly follow.
Now, because of who I am, my initial response was “Screw the bastid!” Don’t remove the offending post, I urged Bob, until someone is literally holding a gun to your head. It’s probably not worth dying over, but it’s certainly worth getting aggressively self-righteous about. No question there.
What you have to understand is that – in my own weird little world – “suing for libel” is only a notch or two above “mugging old ladies for spare change”. It’s essentially setting the rozzers on someone for calling you names. I mean, when it boils down to it, that’s what’s going on. Yes, yes, yes, there’s a million legitimate reasons right? What if the libel ruins your business or makes you unemployable or upsets your mother…? Well look, I’m not saying that having lies told about you can’t be damaging… even ruin a life. Yes that can happen. And that’s wrong and horrible. But I’m a moral absolutist. You know that by now, dear reader, and whatever the circumstances I think you’re pondscum if you set the police on someone for writing something.
Corporations, incidentally, are fair game. You understand that right? Use whatever means necessary to kick Big Media in the balls. Lawsuits, boycotts, petrol-bombs… whatever’s to hand really. But you just don’t threaten another person with the police for something they say. That should be part of the implied social contract we each have with one another. It’s extremely bad form. Which isn’t to say you should take it lying down. When Oliver Kamm called me a Nazi-sympathiser on a public website the idea of suing for libel would have been absurd. Instead I decided to call him a kook and a tosser and point out that I wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire and he’s got a stupid head, roughly once every three months for the rest of my life.
None of which is very relevant, but it’s nearly three months since I made fun of Kamm so I wanted to shoe-horn it in somehow.
Anyway, Bob doesn’t want to take down the piece. And quite aside from my “screw you” gut reaction, I don’t think he should either. You see there’s an issue here that needs debating, and maybe even something worth taking a principled stand over. And it’s got nothing to do with whether or not Digby Jones enjoys kissing goats.
The Memory Hole
You didn’t think I’d go the whole month without an Orwell reference now, did you? In Nineteen Eighty Four the memory hole is where all the little bits of un-news get placed when The Party makes a revision. So a war hero who later speaks out against Big Brother not only disappears, but finds himself removed from history. The books and newspapers are all recalled and alterations made. Entire wars get sent to the memory hole.
To the furnace.
I’m not suggesting that this particular instance of alleged libel has a great deal of political or historical import. But while ‘Hello’ magazine have published a retraction in the current issue, they’ve not been required to somehow recall every offending copy and modify it. There’s no army of temps scouring doctors’ waiting rooms as I write this, desperately snipping out the libellous paragraph… removing it from all but imperfect memory.
Similarly, I don’t see why a blog should be forced to alter its past “issues” rather than merely publish a current retraction. Digby Jones isn’t denying that the allegation was made, merely that it’s wrong. Insisting that the thing is erased from history is absurd. Bob should post a retraction and an apology. As a compromise he should also post a prominent link to that apology from the article in question. Insisting upon anything more is using the tactics of The Party.
Initially I tried to argue that expecting Bob to remove his article from the web was oddly akin to asking a big-circulation magazine to do a recall of a three-month-old issue. With google-cache keeping a copy of web content and sites like archive.org doing their thing, it’s clear that Bob no longer has control over the piece once it’s been distributed. It’s unreasonable, therefore, to even ask him to try to “recall” the post.
Once I’d made that argument, however, someone pointed out that google-cache refreshes itself eventually and archive.org tends not to grab blogs. So when I say “sites like archive.org”, which ones do I mean? Off I went to take a look…
And I have to admit there aren’t as many as I expected there to be. Certainly far less than there used to be. I can remember a number of different sites that archived huge chunks of the web and offered specialised indexing and searching. I guess google has killed them all off as only alexa.com seem to be still in the business. Now, the fact that even one such service exists may be enough to prove the point, but I accept that could be reaching a wee bit. So if anyone is aware of any such archive sites or services then I’d be interested to hear about them. Otherwise it’s maybe not a valid argument.
Although I guess I could put my money where my mouth is and set up a mirror of Bob’s site on a webhost in Brazil (actively and explicitly against Bob’s wishes of course so that he has no culpability). Nobody in their right mind – no, not even Digby Jones – would try to sue a resident of Ireland, from the UK, for a minor act of libel occurring on a website in Brazil. Even I don’t have that kind of free time on my hands.
You see, if nothing else, the “libellous” piece is now sitting in the browser-caches of a whole bunch of visitors to Bob’s site. Some people regularly clear their caches, but others don’t. Some people will even save a copy of a controversial page to their hard-drive just to demonstrate the point that once published, Bob no longer has control over what happens to his page.
I admit it… I’m actively searching for a rationale for a gut feeling here. It’s clear that Bob has far more control over his post-distributed content than ‘Hello’ does. Maybe even enough control to make a decent case that removing it from his website will remove it from the web.
But again, I just feel uncomfortable about removing something published months ago in a periodical. It’s insisting upon more than a traditional “public apology and retraction”… it’s an attempt to falsify an historical record. And whatever one may think about Bob’s blog, or blogs in general, there’s something just not right about that.
The trouble with all of this is the fact that bloggers can, and often do, habitually edit past entries for all manner of (usually perfectly innocent) reasons. So maybe it’s all just a load of bollocks really. Nonetheless, suing someone for libel is a low and nasty thing to do. That much is still true.
To be fair, pompous arse though he is, Kamm’s post on the resolution of Neil Clark’s libel action against him (struck out for cocking up the process and suing in the wrong court, though you might not get that from Kamm’s trumpet-blowing) does at least indicate that he agrees with you about suing bloggers for libel.
http://oliverkamm.typepad.com/blog/2006/11/neil_clark.html
Godfrey v. Demon would indicate the hosting company could, with knowledge, be liable for a defamatory post as well, so I expect to see them being joined to libel actions in time. Deeper pockets. What’s eg typepad going to do when faced with a demand that they take steps to ensure a post is taken down?
November 29th, 2006 | 11:44pm
by Liadnan
You lie sir. It’s well under a month since you last publicly declared “that Oliver Kamm is a fucking tosser who I wouldn’t piss on if he was on fire.”.
November 30th, 2006 | 12:11am
by Larry Teabag
I think, for the truly determined defamer, the solution is to mirror your site on a Brazillian or South Korean web host. I suspect suing them for libel would be extremely difficult indeed. Very costly with no guarantee of success.
Also, fair play to Kamm for beating the libel case (whatever the reason). I still think he’s an odious little fucktard with shifty eyes, but respect to the guy for his position on this issue.
November 30th, 2006 | 12:12am
by Jim
You’ve caught me red-handed Larry. In my defence, it’s been a while since I said that about him on this site. Also, it does no harm to keep ahead of the game. Maybe I’ll forget to make fun of his haircut for a few months.
November 30th, 2006 | 12:31am
by Jim
With all the fuss these past days about whether blogs need a code of conduct, a fair few people have been describing how blogs do not need regulation. The main argument for this is that they are not newspapers, and in fact they’re intrinsically better than newspapers. The Select Society has a good post on this.
With this in mind, I think it is difficult to argue for inaction based on the “blog-as-periodical” analogy.
However, considering the online medium itself (rather than uses of the medium which metaphor others), we see that HTML does actually already include tools to circumvent the “memory hole problem”, while actually allowing one to remove the offending content from view. Specifically, the DEL and INS tags. (An alternative to this can be found on Wikipedia, where every “version” of a page is actually stored for posterity). Using these tags is a ‘proper’ way to edit pages online.
I might also add that keeping permalinks permanent is also a ‘proper’ way to use the medium. So I think actually removing the post is unreasonable on general principle. The agrieved party would do well not to fuck with the integrity of permalinks, since they actually benefit too (i.e. it was only through permalinks that they could prove that they have been libelled in the first place).
Going back to this idea of a ‘code of conduct’ or netiquette, I would have thought that Bob would be pretty desperate to distance himself from the article in question. Isn’t there a kudos or credibility issue at stake here? Why align yourself with ‘Hello’ magazine in the first place? Even if you think Digby Jones did fuck that goat, they are odd bedfellows (Bob and Hello magazine I mean, not Digby and the Goat).
November 30th, 2006 | 2:47am
by Robert
I find the insistence on the integrity of permalinks and non-editing of previous posts the main reason the web is full of garbage. I wish people would remove their old crap, and edit it if they’ve said something untrue. I see no great editorial-freedom argument for teenagers and others having the right to talk shit in public.
Of course, if someone tells you to remove something and applies a measure of legal threat you should dig your heels in as a matter of principle, even if it is a load of bollocks, but on the other hand we should also choose our battles.
What we really need here is less words and a good large photo of Digby Jones actually screwing this goat, with all the appropriate search engine optimisation to ensure a search on his name will yield up this page, hosted in Bosnia or somewhere, as first in Google by the principle of Googlebombing. I trust someone cares enough to be already setting this up. I don’t, but I’d give it a one-second wry smile. As for the post in question, why lose sleep over it? It’s not important. If it was a post about some underground nuclear facility polluting local rivers, and it was true but underreported, that’s a battle worth fighting. But Digby Jones shagging a goat? It’s trivial, it doesn’t deserve defending on the grounds of editorial freedom.
November 30th, 2006 | 2:02pm
by Joel
And look, here’s a good example of how crap blog technology is. I’d like to go back and edit that comment of mine and make the final sentence “It’s trivial, it doesn’t deserve defending.” My mistake, I didn’t intend to say “on the grounds of editorial freedom” there. But now I invite comment on something I didn’t intend to say. Ah, fuck it.
November 30th, 2006 | 2:19pm
by Joel
Why don’t we just fire-bomb the entire bloody web and start again? You’ve seen how green the new shoots of grass come up from charred pasture. There is nothing too precious about the web in its current form.
November 30th, 2006 | 2:23pm
by Joel
While I’m talking shit on a blog, how come I can’t find anything in Google about Digby Jones shagging a goat? Jim, are you aiming for the top spot? I’m wondering whether you’re hook, line, and sinkering us. If so, keep up the good work. Here’s to trivial bollocks.
November 30th, 2006 | 2:29pm
by Joel
I blame the fact that I have flu that I didn’t take in that you said this was all fictional. You cunning devil.
November 30th, 2006 | 2:42pm
by Joel
Joel, I love the fact that you spent a short time believing Digby Jones does it with goats, or at least that ‘Hello’ magazine alleged he does. That’s made my day.
On your other points though… I’m really in two minds about all this.
On the one hand, it’s certainly true that the vast majority of bloggers are bad 14-year-old poets, schoolgirls in Singapore telling the world how dreamy Ashton Kutcher is, and Christian American newlyweds posting baby pictures and reports of last night’s church meeting. I think this fact is often forgotten by those of us who read a very small number of political and cultural blogs by half-decent writers.
But on the other hand, that small number of half-decent writers surely deserve a litte more consideration than a blithe dismissal along the lines of “I see no great editorial-freedom argument for teenagers and others having the right to talk shit in public”.
Assume for the moment that the mundane world of party politics and big business and all that go with them, actually matters. There’s an argument to be made that good political bloggers can – by virtue of their unique freedom from editorial restriction and commercial concerns – achieve certain things that corporate media can’t. It’s the same argument used by IndyMedia-type sites.
Thanks to the internet, the maverick independent political writer can get his or her stories read by tens of thousands of people (and some of the biggest political blogs have huge readerships) despite the fact that no corporate media outlet would touch them for fear of pissing off their advertisers.
OK, so that’s the Ideal. I’m not saying such writers exist in great numbers. The ones I consider most interesting rarely have big audiences, and the ones with the big audiences tend not to be saying anything you couldn’t read in the Express.
All the same, I guess I just don’t have quite the same lack of respect for the medium as you. “There is nothing too precious about the web in its current form.” Perhaps not, but when it comes to protecting the rights of people to say and write what they want – whatever the medium – I know what side of the barbed-wire fence I stand on.
Incidentally, the real blogger in question has decided to remove the offending piece. He agrees with the “choose your battles” sentiment.
I probably would have dug my heels in… but that’s only because – as I mentioned to him in an email – I don’t have anyone to support other than myself, don’t have an employer to piss off, have plenty of free time and my assets, such as they are, are mostly spiritual. Suing me over a minor case of libel would be lots of hassle for absolutely no gain (hell, there’d be more people physically present in the courtroom than read this blog).
Not everyone’s in that position though, and Bob has responsibilities beyond digging his heels in over a tiny libel.
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PS: I hope you’re feeling better soon, Joel. It’s the time of year for crappy colds and flus. Wrap yourself in a duvet, drink hot whiskey, honey and lemon juice and watch some Mighty Boosh.
November 30th, 2006 | 4:38pm
by Jim
I would normally have been more critical of what I was being fed, but clearly a feverish state enables a suspension of disbelief. Hell I even like reading my novel at the moment and think it makes perfect sense.
November 30th, 2006 | 5:22pm
by Joel